Finally, a win against CityJet
Last July, I flew in to Paris from Lima, Peru with Air France to connect with a CityJet flight back to London City Airport. I checked in as normal at Orly airport on 4 July and made my way airside.
Noting that the information board didn’t yet have a gate number, I took a seat and read a magazine. After a while, I thought it would be wise to check if the flight had been allocated a gate and was puzzled to see that fifteen minutes before the scheduled take-off slot, the flight had disappeared from the screens. There were no CityJet ground staff around and after asking a few airport employees, I decided to go back landside to find out what was going on.
At the check-in desk, I managed to find out that the flight had been cancelled “for technical reasons”. I was told that there was no way I’d be able to get back to London that evening as the Heathrow and City flights were all full. The CityJet employee was apologetic but when asked for a solution, gave a Gallic shrug and basically told me there was none. A couple of businessmen in the same predicament joined me and received the same treatment. Eventually, a supervisor was called who repeated that there was “no solution”. Eventually, after some heated debate, he acknowledged that it was CityJet’s responsibility to get us back to the UK and suggested that we go on standby for the following morning’s flight – but that it was possible we wouldn’t be able to travel as the flight wasn’t showing sufficient spaces.
To cut a long story short, the only way of a guaranteed return to London was to take the train to Gare du Nord and take Eurostar at our own expense – and under EU rules, claim compensation for the cancelled flight. To do this required the return of our checked luggage. At first, we were told it was waiting on the carousel, but it wasn’t and no member of ground staff knew where it was. Having booked a Eurostar ticket on the understanding I’d be able to leave the airport pretty much immediately, I then had a nail-biting wait for the luggage to be tracked down followed by a mad dash across Paris. I caught my Eurostar train with five minutes to spare.
Back in the UK, I submitted my request for compensation. Having been given a slip of paper at Orly with a handwritten note reading “ticket of the flight can be refound (sic)” I didn’t envisage any issues, even if it had been incorrectly dated as 4 June. I filled in the relevant form from CityJet’s website, attached scans of the relevant receipts and tickets and waited for a response.
Nothing happened for several weeks, until I received this reply on 21 August:
Dear Mrs. Hammond Johnson,
Thank you for contacting CityJet.
We write in response to your email regarding your flight incident and we would like to apologise for the inconvenience caused on this occasion.
Having studied your file, we inform you that the incident was due to a technical issue. Such cases are considered as extraordinary events for which we cannot be held liable according to the European Regulation 261/2004.
We therefore regret to inform you that we cannot agree to your compensation request.
We hope your subsequent journeys with us will be to your full satisfaction.
CityJet Customer Care
Not to be fobbed off, I visited the Which? consumer guide website, which suggested that there was a relevant court case appeal being heard regarding Jet2. Basically, if the appeal went in the customer’s favour rather than that of the airline, technical issues would no longer be classified as extraordinary and I would be entitled to 250 euros in compensation. I decided to wait it out. In November, I read online that the ruling was what I’d hoped for and so I used the Which? template to create the following letter:
24 November 2014
I am writing to you in connection with the above flight on which I was booked to travel on 4 July 2014.
The flight was supposed to depart from Paris Orly at 1710, but was cancelled fifteen minutes prior to take off.
When I tried to get compensation under the EU Denied Boarding Regulation 261/2004, I was told I was not eligible because the cancellation was caused by an extraordinary circumstance.
Technical problems are not extraordinary circumstances unless they are the type that you could not expect to encounter when operating a flight.
The decisions made in the Wallentin-Hermann vs. Alitalia case 2009 and Jet2 vs. Huzar case 2014 have confirmed that routine technical difficulties are not extraordinary circumstances. Although Jet2 appealed the ruling, the decision was upheld in November 2014.
I am entitled to the sum of 250 euros compensation and look forward to receiving the sterling equivalent within the next 14 days.
I attach a copy of the ticket and previous correspondence I have had with your airline,
Julia Hammond Johnson
I posted it recorded delivery as suggested and waited. Weeks passed and I heard nothing. I sent an email to CityJet requesting an answer to my letter. The following day, I received this reply:
Dear Mrs. Hammond Johnson,
I write in response to your email from Saturday, January 31, 2015.
We take into consideration all the emails sent to you previously from our colleague Veronica on the 21 August 2015 regarding your request for the compensation of your flight cancellation.
At that time as per the European Regualtions EC261/2004 technical issue was classified as Extraordinary events which was not eligible for any compensation. Your compensation request was denied in August before the decision regarding technical issues was amended. Therefore your case was close in August 2014 and the decision was made in November 2014.Taking into consideration the European Regulations at that time you are not entitle to any compensation.
On this occasion we must deny your request for compensation.
CityJet Customer Care
Unimpressed by CityJet’s attempts to wriggle out of their legal obligations, I sent this terse reply:
As you are well aware, the ruling in November applies to flights going back up to six years. You are therefore not legally entitled to deny my request for compensation under British and EU law. I am quite prepared to take this to court and to the media, neither of which would do anything good for CityJet’s image.
Please reconsider the request. Surely 250 euros is better than the negative publicity which would be generated. I have no intention of dropping this matter.
Julia Hammond Johnson
It did the trick. I received this email response almost immediately:
Dear Mrs. HAMMOND JOHNSON,
I write in response to your email from Tuesday, February 03, 2015 whereby you explain you have experienced a flight cancellation.
We are pleased to inform you that we agree to offer you the full compensation amount of Eur 250.00.
In order to answer to your request, we would be grateful if you could send us the following documents by responsding to this email
•Complete bank details including the IBAN (International Bank Account Number),
•Swift code / BIC,
•the full name of the Account holder,
•bank name including address
We are looking forward to read from you.
CityJet Customer Care
It made me chuckle – the first line of Kaminee’s response giving the impression that no previous correspondence had taken place. I did as I was asked and was promised compensation within 21 working days. I am pleased to report that the money was credited to my account on 4 March, eight months to the day after the flight cancellation. Other than the fact that the value of the euro has taken a nosedive against the pound during that time, I am happy with the result. Together with the refund I received last July from Opodo (with whom I booked) for the unused flight leg, the compensation I received covered the cost of my train journey back to London.
What have I learnt from this?
Firstly, know your rights and make sure any correspondence you send quotes the relevant court rulings. Secondly, keep all your receipts and paperwork, taking scans to send if your complaint is made via email. Thirdly, where you have to use the regular mail, ensure you use recorded delivery so that you can prove your letter was received and on what date. Finally, I’ve decided that I won’t be travelling with CityJet again – any airline can be forced to cancel a flight, but CityJet’s deliberate attempts to avoid paying out compensation and its lack of integrity as a company mean that I shall choose to take my business elsewhere in future.
Good to see that common sense finally ruled, though I bet the other passengers didn’t receive a refund. It is shocking that airlines can shrug responsibility like this though. What if you had been elderly and not able to get across to the Eurostar without assistance? What if you had been a parent travelling with children? Having to find your own way back to London, at night, without any offer of a hotel or onward flight is disgraceful.
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March 6, 2015 at 1:23 pm
I think they bank on the fact that a large number of their LCY passengers are on business expenses and therefore don’t care if they have to fork out on Eurostar to make it home for the weekend. There was a young girl en route to Hong Kong with three large suitcases – I think they prioritised her for a seat to LHR but I didn’t fancy taking my chances. Very pleased with the result even if totally unimpressed with CityJet!
March 6, 2015 at 1:34 pm
Thank you for this, very useful! Does anyone know the actual email address to send to? I have been following up on a cancellation through their online section but not getting any response…. Jen
April 1, 2016 at 7:33 am
You can contact Cityet through their web form here http://www.cityjet.com/contact/. I also found that emailing firstname.lastname@example.org worked, as did using the contact details for their Head Office in Ireland:
Swords Business Campus Balheary Road,
Telephone: +353 (1) 8700 100
Good luck and I look forward to hearing how you get on.
April 1, 2016 at 7:51 am
Thanks Julia, that’s great! I have used the web form but have had no reply. I will try emailing now and will let you know how I get on.
April 1, 2016 at 12:33 pm
This info has been just what we were looking for thank you.
We had an awful experience with City Jet just yesterday 7/4/16. We took off an hour late and 50mins into our flight we were told we were having to land at Pisa airport due to engine trouble. We were met by five fire engines and a bus to take us to the terminal and told we would be informed as to what was going to happen. There was no one from City Jet at Pisa as that is not one of their destinations but were told staff there would answer any questions. Three hours later, after many passengers had talked to airport staff who knew nothing, we were told that our flight would be at 9:15pm six hours after arriving at Pisa and would be landing at Stansted airport!! There were families with small children and a lady in a wheelchair who was travelling alone on our flight.
At 9:20pm we finally boarded a Titan aircraft which was sent to take us and the staff were amazing!
We arrived at Stansted at 11:10pm (Italy time) 10:10pm Engish time and put on a coach to London City where we arrived 10:45pm. There wasn’t anyone there to meet us or to help the lady in the wheelchair.
Many passengers had to make several calls to people who were picking them up and others, like ourselves, only just caught trains and buses home.
We were left all those hours without any contact from City Jet at all. I will never fly with them again!!
April 9, 2016 at 11:02 am
Really sorry to hear that, Jacqui. It seems when CityJet get it wrong, they get it spectacularly wrong. Good luck in contacting them and I hope you are able to secure some compensation to cover your expenses and inconvenience.
April 9, 2016 at 11:07 am
Success! It took 3 web forms (which they never acknowledged) from 22 March 2016 and numerous emails back and forth over 2 days in which I quoted parts of the Regulation to them which showed I had a case. The email address I finally got a response from was email@example.com
In the end I used your exact line of the threat of court and media before they conceded! Cityjet’s final response below – I await the payment to my account.
“I would like to apologise for the late reply I had to investigate this case with my supervisors. Upon the further investigation I have now issued your compensation to the account details that you have provided to us.
The compensation of €250 can take up to 10-14 days to reach your account depending on the banking process.
I would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused to you during this time and if you require any further information please don’t hesitate to contact us.”
Many thanks for your help 🙂
April 6, 2016 at 7:50 am
Hi Jennifer, I’m thrilled that you got a response and that they’ve finally done what they’re legally required to do. Let’s hope more people are inspired not to give up on the back of this.
April 6, 2016 at 7:52 am
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